20 April 2007

We’ve Got A Little List–Of Immigrants Who Had A List Of People To Kill

Here we are–incomplete, anecdotal, and unscientific, but an antidote to someone who says that this this is the first time an immigrant has done something like this.

Omitted are a number of terrorist mass murders, including 9/11 and Egypt Air Flight 990.

Also omitted are a lot of single murders by immigrants, gang violence, and so on. This is a particular kind of crime.

Oh, and Naveed Haq, the Seattle Gunman, and Robert Flores a Hispanic who killed 4 people at the University of Arizona are also not on the list. They were technically Americans.

Email me if I’ve left anyone out.

Immigrant Mass Murderer Date Killed Wounded
Wayne Lo December 14, 1992, 2 4
Colin Ferguson
December7, 1993
6 19
Salvador Tapia August 27, 2003 6 0
Gang Lu November 1, 1991 5 1
Hesham Hadayet July 5, 2002 2 4
Chai Vang November 21, 2004 6 2
Ali Hassan Abu Kamal February 23,  1997. 1 6
 Mir Aimal Kansi January 25, 1993 2 3
Jorge Galindo,  Jose Sandoval, Erick Vela
September 26, 2002
5 1
Sulejman Talovic February 12, 2007 5 4
Peter Odighizuwa January 16, 2002 3 34
Seung-Hui Cho April 16, 2007 32  21
Total 75 68

UPDATE: A reader pointed out that I left Peter Odighizuwa off the list; he’s been added.

Double Standard on “Hate”

When a hostile immigrant student, one Cho Seung-Hui, exhibited years of criminal behavior like stalking and arson, the university cut him endless slack, presumably because of the no-blame ideology of multiculturalism, well discussed by the thoughtful editorialists at Investors Business Daily:

So why did they all tolerate his abusive behavior for so long?

Was it because he was a foreign student? Was it because he was a minority? Was it because multiculturalism has robbed us of our last sense, even our instinct for survival? Or was it simply because the campus lifestyle, more than the real world, tends to accommodate, even nurture, idiosyncratic behavior?
[Victims Of Tolerance? IBD 4/19/07]

But when a middle school kid puts a slice of ham on the lunch table of some Somali students, that’s a hate crime, according to the guardians of diversity in Lewiston, Maine.

One student has been suspended and more disciplinary action could follow a possible hate crime at Lewiston Middle School, Superintendent Leon Levesque said Wednesday.
‘Hate Incident’ in City, Lewiston Sun Journal 4/19/07]

In case anyone has forgotten, middle school is full of kid pranks, in which pre-adult social relations are acted out. Turning a slightly rude joke into a crime is no way to reduce normal tensions between ethnic groups, despite the beliefs of Stalinist school enforcers.

VDARE.com has followed for some time the burrowing of Somalis into Lewiston and other locales, where the immigrant complaint culture has been used successfully to deflect normal standards of responsibility and assimilation.

Anonymous Asian Commenter:”I understand why the the student turned into a gunman”

Via the Knickerblogger, who linked to an earlier article of mine,I found this chilling comment posted by an anonymous Asian commenter on the New York Times blog. Obviously, this is a case of blaming Americans for the actions of immigrants–the Knickerblogger’s post is titled as predicted - blame the shootings on Americans and highlights a story on the killer having been picked on at school.

This post from an anonymous Asian student is chilling because he represents, traditionally, the best kind of immigrant–hardworking, successful, high IQ. But see how he hates you and me!

I understand why the the student turned into a gunman. I knew that something like this was going to happen, and this may be the beginning, unless Americans become more respectful to non-white people (both verbal and nonverbal). Racism is constant, mostly nonverbal. I came from a similar background, although not exactly the same. During the junior high school, I was one of the few Asians at the school. Many students are racists and people called me many names. I also spoke constantly about killing people. I started lifting weights, and at the end of that year, I was the strongest in my school. I played with lots of bb guns and paintball guns. I started playing various sports (fball, wrestling, etc). My parents were also poor. Many immigrants either join gangs or some people play sports to release their anger. Fortunately, I was able to overcome the environmental factors, became very popular in high school, and overcame the adversity. It is a special challenge for immigrants and non-caucasians in America. I have an incredibly strong will power and through the help of God, I overcame adversities and constant racism. Now, I am very successful. Many people will not overcome racial adversities and this shooting could just be the beginning… My advice to all Americans:
1. Be respectful to all people (both verbal and nonverbal), all the time.
2. I don’t understand the gunlaw(biggest problem)
3. American media is full of junk (violence(WWF), sex(OC), drugs, and violent music. Get rid of them, now.
4. Understand that many people from other countries that have poor english accents are better educated than many americans here, with masters and PhDs. Be respectful to people in all places, but most Americans will never know what it feels like to be non-white, because white people are nice to white people.
5. The gunman had personal problems, but it is the media, and the americans that influenced the gunman. Again, the gunlaw is also incomprehensible.

p.s. don’t reply or leave my email address. I will not be pleased. Also, I didn’t check the spelling and the grammar.

— Posted by Anonymous 1:22 PM Updates on Virginia Tech - The Lede - Breaking News - New York Times Blog

JPod Weighs In On The Question Of Fighting Back…

And comes out strongly in favor of helplessness and cowardice. This is a reflex in New York City–non-resistance to mugging is drummed into New Yorkers from their earliest years.

But check out the last line of his post:“Judge not, lest ye be judged.”

That’s from John Podhoretz, the most judgmental man in American public life.

I really, really, find it hard to believe that John Podhoretz, of all people, is actually saying “Judge not, lest ye be judged.” Judge Judy isn’t as judgmental as Podhoretz. [Send JPod mail, but please, don't be judgmental.]

Judgmental update: Podhoretz on Hugh Hewitt, re NBC’s decision to showcase the killer’s video:“I don’t see how one can view their decision making or their choice as anything but strictly craven.” I agree with him here, “In the name of old-fashioned and time-honored forms of human behavior, “ but it obviously highlights his earlier hypocrisy.

In a Classroom WIth a Gunman
The Corner on National Review Online
[John Podhoretz]

I have to dissent, in the strongest possible terms, from John Derbyshire’s shocking posts on Virginia Tech. The notion that a human being or group of human beings holding no weapon whatever should somehow “fight back” against someone calmly executing other people right in front of their eyes is ludicrous beyond belief, irrational beyond bounds, and tasteless beyond the limits of reason.

“Why didn’t anyone rush the guy?” Derb asks. Gee, I don’t know. Because he was executing people? Because if you rush a guy with a gun, he shoots you in the head the way he executed the teachers in each classroom?

Derb claims proudly to be touching a “third rail” by raising something no one wants to talk about. The third rail is a metaphor for electrocution. What happened in those classrooms was no metaphor. It was a psychotic with a gun and a lot of people with no weaponry at their disposal. A few were astonishingly brave, and deserve to be considered heroes. Everybody else was just a person either in danger of being murdered, being mortally wounded, or being murdered.

In the name of old-fashioned and time-honored forms of human behavior, Derb has trampled on one of the oldest: Judge not, lest ye be judged.

Applause for Oklahoma

Non-Oklahoman media seems still to be maintaining an extraordinary black-out about the sweeping illegal immigrant control measure passed by the State Senate there on Monday. But thanks to the magic of the internet, word is spreading anyway.

A feature of the immigration debate has been that discussion threads to even very pro-immigration articles tend to be dominated by highly articulate restrictionist contributors. This is not really the case in Oklahoma. There, a fair number of posts, hyper ventilating about “Racism” and “Hate”, seem bent on proving the accuracy of Peter Brimelow’s contention that immigration policy is Adolf Hitler’s revenge on America - with rational public discussion disabled by WW2 mythology.

However, people with more experience and maturity can intervene. I thought these two postings to the thread following the Tulsa World article I cited on Wednesday, if rough-hewn, notable and very effective. Both are from southern California:

67. 4/19/2007 9:51:28 AM, adrock, Los Angeles
GOOD WORK OKLAHOMA! Illegal aliens need to go back to where they came from. Always bitching that America owes them better treatment. The government they ran away from owes them better treatment…America owes them nothing!
I can’t help but laugh at all you clowns defending illegals. Most of you won’t realize what’s really happening here until it’s too late. Just wait until they come to your neighborhood and start pushing you around in your own town. 10 years ago, nobody out here in LA thought illegals were a problem, and today they own the place. Why don’t all of you sympathizers move your families out to east LA if want to experience the future of America because this is what you’re ultimately fighting for.
And for all you people crying about racism…buckle up. When Latinos take over you’ll see racism that you didn’t believe possible and it will all be directed at your white, english-speaking ass. Unlike most of you, I live amongst Latinos and they are the most racist culture I have ever come across.
Disagree if you like, but DO NOT forget my warning: Illegal immigrants will be the death knell of America. You people are trying to be friends with people who don’t want your friendship, and unless you stop this invasion, you’ll see America dissolve into a third world sewer. And when that happens, just remember that you were one of the morons who fought for that outcome.
68. 4/19/2007 1:27:06 PM, kevin,
I couldnt agree more with adrock. I also lived in southern california when latinos were much fewer in numbers, and everyone defended their presence and hard work, but now that they are the majority there, things are much different. They arent the quiet, mind their own business folk who are just hoping to make it here in America (illegally), they are now banding together (remember May 1 2006?) and demanding things they are in no way owed! They now are arrogant in public and will openly argue with you that this (USA) is Mexico!! They have effectively ruined a once prestigious California school system by requiring so many resources go to ESL programs and performing poorly on exams. All this, on top of vicious gangs, smuggling rings, and an extremely anti American attitude, its a wonder more states arent jumping to take the same action as Oklahoma! If youre too ignorant to listen to people like me, who have experienced this, then you have no one to blame but yourself when America is destroyed. Hooray for Oklahoma making a very wise decision.